1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 You could put me out of business. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,000 You specialize in muscly people. 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Yes. 4 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Which I'm not. 5 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:08,000 Yes. 6 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,000 I gathered that the minute the shirt came off. 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:43,000 The world of extreme bodybuilding. 8 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:48,000 A subculture of people who push their bodies to the limits of human capacity. 9 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,000 But just how far were they prepared to go? 10 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,000 And was I prepared to go there too? 11 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,000 I began in Southern California. 12 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,000 My contact, the number two amateur in the world. 13 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Australian Guy Grundy. 14 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,000 The location, a photo shoot for Pump Magazine. 15 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,000 I'm Guy Grundy. 16 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,000 Guy Grundy, Louis Theroux. 17 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,000 How you doing buddy? 18 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,000 Good. 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,000 You look great. 20 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,000 Can we admire your physique? 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,000 Of course. 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,000 That's why I do what I do. 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,000 Yeah. 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,000 Can we just really look at that? 25 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,000 Wow. 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,000 How does that make you feel being able to do that? 27 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,000 I've got an ankle. 28 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,000 I'm living the life I live the dream. 29 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,000 In what way? 30 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:30,000 I come from Australia and I've always wanted to come to America being the magazine. 31 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,000 Shoot with the top photographers. 32 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,000 Like Dave. 33 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,000 Look at girls like this. 34 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,000 Get to touch them and stuff. 35 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,000 Easy. 36 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,000 Hey, so I want to share that dream. 37 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,000 I see a bit of potential there. 38 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,000 Definitely feel it. 39 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,000 But you're going to wear your shoes, OK? 40 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,000 No. 41 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,000 You're not wearing much in the downstairs department. 42 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,000 You mean I have a small penis? 43 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,000 No, no, you're wearing your shoes. 44 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,000 You mean I have a small penis? 45 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,000 No, no, you're not wearing much. 46 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,000 Well, I haven't got the sock in yet. 47 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,000 God damn it, Karen. 48 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Give me the sock. 49 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,000 I didn't say you didn't have much. 50 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,000 I said you weren't wearing much. 51 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,000 I wasn't wearing much. 52 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,000 OK. 53 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,000 That's all right then. 54 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,000 People say bodybuilders have small penises. 55 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,000 Then a jockey has a big penis. 56 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,000 You look at the size of a jockey. 57 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,000 He's only a little man. 58 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,000 So it's obviously going to look big on him. 59 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,000 And the bodybuilders are so much bigger. 60 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,000 So it's going to look smaller. 61 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,000 I didn't see anything about him. 62 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,000 You did. 63 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,000 And I've got a big penis. 64 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,000 God damn it. 65 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,000 Looks good. 66 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,000 Go over her like you're going to kiss her. 67 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Come lower. 68 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,000 Now that looks stupid. 69 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,000 Come up. 70 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,000 Like that. 71 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,000 That is good, isn't it? 72 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,000 Do I do find as a bodybuilder people that she's just like looking at you? 73 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Some do, some don't. 74 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,000 They're more just in awe. 75 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,000 It's like saying a one-legged person. 76 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,000 It's just something they're not accustomed to seeing. 77 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,000 Yeah. 78 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:42,000 Hey, in all seriousness, Karen, do you, as a woman, find that sculpted physique, big 79 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,000 muscles more attractive than they stand? 80 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,000 A skinny guy who's a little bit like pale and maybe a tiny bit. 81 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,000 You know, like. 82 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,000 Yes, I find it more attractive. 83 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,000 You're not fat now. 84 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,000 Come here, man. 85 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,000 No, no, no. 86 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,000 I'm not. 87 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,000 I'm here, bro. 88 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,000 Is that right? 89 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,000 I find it sexy, buddy. 90 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,000 Yes. 91 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,000 Yeah. 92 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,000 Do you want to know why I started doing weights? 93 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Because I'd go to the beach and see muscular men with good-looking women. 94 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,000 And basically I thought, well, if that's how you get good-looking women, hey, I want 95 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,000 good-looking women. 96 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:17,000 The thing, are there about preferring men with muscle? 97 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,000 Yeah. 98 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,000 Was that a joke? 99 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,000 Or was that serious? 100 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,000 No, actually, I was very serious. 101 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,000 You weren't just saying that because Guy was there? 102 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,000 Yeah. 103 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,000 Thanks, Dave. 104 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Take it easy. 105 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,000 Looking big obviously worked for Guy. 106 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,000 You must be fighting women off with a stick. 107 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,000 If I make it clear that I'm available, like, you know what I mean, then it is easy for 108 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,000 me, yeah. 109 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,000 I wanted to see if I had what it took to follow in his footsteps. 110 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,000 He invited me along to see his agent to assess my potential. 111 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,000 Hi. 112 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,000 Hi, how are you doing? 113 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,000 Good, how are you doing? 114 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,000 Good. 115 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,000 How's it going? 116 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,000 I'm Mark. 117 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,000 Louis. 118 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,000 Louis. 119 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,000 Nice to meet you, Mark. 120 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,000 Nice to meet you, Mark. 121 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,000 Nice to meet you, Mark. 122 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,000 Flex Broca. 123 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,000 Okay, you are Guy's agent. 124 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,000 Yes, I try to be. 125 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,000 What is it that Guy's got that you're selling? 126 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:16,000 Guy, I mean his personality, the persona he's created for himself, just who he is. 127 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,000 I want you to see what I've got, right? 128 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,000 Can we go somewhere and you'll just sort of assess me? 129 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,000 Sure. 130 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:27,000 Okay, so I don't really work out, so, but this is what it is, okay? 131 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,000 You ready? 132 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,000 I think I am. 133 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,000 If you worked out, you could definitely get some symmetry, absolutely. 134 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,000 If you'd like to show your legs and put them up against Guy's, because Guy's got some great... 135 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,000 I'm a great Guy, do you want to? 136 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,000 Guy's got great quads. 137 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,000 How do you know Guy's got great quads? 138 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,000 Everybody knows Guy's got great quads. 139 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,000 Really? 140 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,000 Yeah, look at them. 141 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,000 I don't know which ones Guy's quads are. 142 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,000 All right, look at the sweeps right here. 143 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,000 He's got beautiful sweeps on both sides. 144 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,000 You turn around to the side. 145 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,000 You can also see right here the hand development, which is very, very good here. 146 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,000 You turn completely around, you'll be able to see how it... right here. 147 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,000 And it then goes right down to the calves, which are pretty nice. 148 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,000 Look at those quads. 149 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,000 They've been better. 150 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,000 I've seen those calves better. 151 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,000 Amazing. 152 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:27,000 Now, what do you assess in all the same things that you've did with Guy? 153 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,000 What do you say, Guy? 154 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,000 You have no real quad development. 155 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,000 I literally almost don't have that muscle. 156 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,000 You have the muscle. 157 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,000 It's just not developed yet. 158 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,000 You haven't developed it yet. 159 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,000 You just have average regular person likes. 160 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,000 Are you sure you're not making a snap judgment? 161 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,000 It's two different things. 162 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,000 You're talking apples and oranges. 163 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,000 Is there a market for this? 164 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,000 Not now. 165 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,000 No. 166 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,000 So let's say I got the body. 167 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,000 What kind of work could I get? 168 00:05:55,000 --> 00:06:02,000 Range can be from anywhere from the big screen TV to print work right down to playgirl or muscle worship. 169 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,000 Playgirl or muscle worship. 170 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,000 What is that? 171 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:11,000 Muscle worship is a phenomenon where male and females enjoy the feel of muscle. 172 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,000 I've been offered from $200 to $1,000 for someone to arm. 173 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,000 So you come back to my hotel room and let me feel your arm. 174 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,000 Just feel your arm? 175 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,000 Yeah. 176 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:24,000 I've had other top professional bodybuilders that are gay saying, you know, there's a guy that'll pay us an X amount of money 177 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,000 if we do stuff together in front of him. 178 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,000 Like what? 179 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,000 Like you name it just from cuddling to kissing and the more you do the more you'll get. 180 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,000 Let's say you and I cuddled in front of a guy. 181 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,000 What do you think I could get? 182 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,000 Totally depend on the person. 183 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,000 Would you be up for that guy? 184 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,000 We could make a lot of money. 185 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,000 I don't know. 186 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,000 My career is going pretty well at the moment. 187 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,000 We could just massage each other, you know, like... 188 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,000 You wouldn't even cuddle me a minute ago. 189 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,000 Now you want to massage me. 190 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,000 What's going on? 191 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,000 That's amazing. 192 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,000 People pay big money for clothes too, I mean. 193 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,000 Oh and I make $500 a month on used workout clothing. 194 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,000 Really? 195 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,000 Yeah, people just want to buy and use for like... 196 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,000 Dirty underwear? 197 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,000 Yeah. 198 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,000 What could you get from my underpants? 199 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,000 You're in England pretty well now and you could probably get a fair bit. 200 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,000 Are you really well now in England? 201 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,000 You could get a fair bit. 202 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,000 Reasonably, yeah. 203 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,000 Okay, good. 204 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,000 BBC2, what could you get from my underpants? 205 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:16,000 It would depend on what special gifts you'd give with it. 206 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,000 And people do ask for that anything. 207 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,000 So what underwear they've asked and like... 208 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,000 You mean what? 209 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,000 Soiled underwear, anything. 210 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,000 People ask for... 211 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,000 It's all like, as in you've defecated in it? 212 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,000 Does that mean you get other toilet in them? 213 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,000 Yeah. 214 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,000 Yeah, or the other thing in them, anything. 215 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,000 And you did that? 216 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,000 No, no, no. 217 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,000 But they're the things that people want. 218 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,000 And believe me, a lot of people do it and... 219 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,000 If you can do that with a clear conscience, just like if you can pose to someone with a clear conscience, 220 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,000 then more power to you. 221 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,000 Thank you very much, Mark. 222 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,000 Thank you very much. 223 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,000 It feels like I could be sitting on a little bit of a gold one. 224 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,000 You know what, you just maybe, if you just make it a little rounder. 225 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,000 Yeah. 226 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,000 A little bit more. 227 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,000 It could happen. 228 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,000 Thank you, gentlemen. 229 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,000 Next morning, and it was time to try and build some muscle. 230 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,000 After you, Louis. 231 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,000 Okay, so this shop sells supplements and stuff for bodybuilders. 232 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,000 Yeah. 233 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,000 So for me, is there anything that's really going to speed up the muscle building potential? 234 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,000 Things like your pro hormones, which is the angiobolic. 235 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,000 This, which is a time really to test off your own booster. 236 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,000 Testosterone, that's the male hormone. 237 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,000 Exactly, which builds muscle. 238 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,000 So let's say I took these things and worked out with you for a little while. 239 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,000 Mm-hmm. 240 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,000 That would help? 241 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,000 Definitely, yeah. 242 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,000 You would even find the grace where age would be accelerated for sure. 243 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,000 Okay, I'm sold. 244 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,000 How would you feel if you looked like me? 245 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,000 I wouldn't feel too comfortable with myself. 246 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,000 I wouldn't want to just have my shirt off or anything like that. 247 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,000 Not that you've got a bad body, it's just like you've driven a Porsche type thing, 248 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,000 which is the way I look at my body, because that's my ideal body, 249 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,000 and then driving a lesser type of a car, 250 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,000 which is not saying that yours is a lesser, but it's the way that I view things, you know what I mean. 251 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,000 If you're driving a Porsche, what am I driving? 252 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,000 A Mini? 253 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,000 With some racing stripes. 254 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,000 Now, shall I take, I want to take my angiobolics. 255 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,000 Yeah. 256 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,000 Because this isn't steroids, but it's the closest legal thing, isn't it? 257 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,000 That's true. 258 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:15,000 If I take these, right, and I've eaten most of this breakfast, 259 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,000 how soon could I notice the muscles if I don't work out at all? 260 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,000 Never. 261 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,000 If you don't train, nothing else matters. 262 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,000 That's childhood, you've got to push it down. 263 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,000 This is like training right now. 264 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,000 You got it? 265 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,000 Pushed her turn. 266 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,000 There we go, Brad. Pretty difficult. 267 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,000 Ready? 268 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,000 Go. 269 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,000 Do I look different? 270 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,000 If you did take steroids, would you inject them every morning? 271 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:59,000 Oh no, some guys, if I was to use steroids, I'd be a very mild user. 272 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:04,000 And I would have tried it once to use a lot, 273 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,000 and didn't really notice a great deal of difference. 274 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,000 A lot of women would take four to five times the amount that I take. 275 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,000 Would take? 276 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,000 Yes, would take. 277 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,000 So where do people get their steroids from? 278 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:24,000 If you wanted to get, if you took heroin or cocaine, where would you get it from? 279 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,000 Drug dealer. 280 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,000 Exactly. 281 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,000 But these are prescription drugs, aren't they? 282 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,000 A lot of the ones that people take are veterinary and stuff. 283 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,000 You mean like, the stuff they give to animals? 284 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,000 Yep. 285 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,000 Really? 286 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,000 Which is exactly what they give to human beings. 287 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,000 You might have taken that. 288 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,000 I could have taken stuff that was for sheep, yes. 289 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,000 No, for horses. 290 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,000 I wasn't sure I wanted to turn myself into a sheep, 291 00:10:55,000 --> 00:11:00,000 but the time had come to pump some iron at the world famous Gold's Gym. 292 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,000 You ready to rock, Louis? 293 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,000 Yeah. 294 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,000 This is where you even make it or you break it. 295 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,000 I'm a bit nervous. 296 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,000 Take a few big breaths, get the chest out, a bit of attitude. 297 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,000 Now to see if I had the right stuff. 298 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:19,000 I had an appointment with a Gold's in-house trainer, an ex-Marine Drill Sergeant. 299 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,000 This would be my first workout. 300 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,000 You ready, boss? 301 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,000 Yes, I am, boss. 302 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,000 Okay. 303 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,000 You are Frank Casavetes? 304 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,000 Yes, sir. 305 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,000 I sure am. 306 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,000 And you are an elite trainer of bodybuilders? 307 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,000 I train bodybuilders in the US. 308 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,000 I'm a coach. 309 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,000 I'm a coach. 310 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,000 I'm a coach. 311 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,000 I'm a coach. 312 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,000 I'm a coach. 313 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,000 I'm a coach. 314 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,000 I train bodybuilders and performance athletes. 315 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,000 You are not male or male? 316 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,000 Yeah, you are muscular, but you are not a bodybuilder. 317 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,000 I'm not a bodybuilder. 318 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,000 I train bodybuilders, but I have more of a performance athlete body. 319 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,000 More of a boxer's body. 320 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,000 I train as a boxer. 321 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,000 If you'd like to, we can do that too. 322 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,000 Are you quick? 323 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,000 I'm all right. 324 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,000 Who is that over there? 325 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:07,000 I saw that one coming. 326 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,000 Can you tell looking at me that I'm not a bodybuilder? 327 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,000 Yes, sir. 328 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,000 I sure could. 329 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,000 You're lean. 330 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,000 You look fit. 331 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,000 Everybody does that. 332 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,000 Bodybuilders, to be honest with you, is not the healthiest people. 333 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,000 Okay? 334 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:25,000 Their diets are terrible because they have to cut out the carbohydrates and their superficial 335 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,000 strength only. 336 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,000 They are very weak in the core of most of them. 337 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,000 In a way, they are weak. 338 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,000 In one aspect of it, I wouldn't call them that. 339 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,000 All right. 340 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:38,000 We're going to start off with a basic exercise to get size. 341 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,000 Hit it. 342 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,000 Come on. 343 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,000 You want to be a bodybuilder, this is where it starts. 344 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,000 Good. 345 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,000 Look, my pain is popping up. 346 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,000 Here you go, baby. 347 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,000 Let me get it heavy away. 348 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,000 I'm getting taught just holding it. 349 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,000 Yes, sir. 350 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,000 Now, give me a curl. 351 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,000 Come on. 352 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,000 Come on. 353 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,000 Squeeze. 354 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,000 Hit it. 355 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,000 One. 356 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,000 What's happening to me? 357 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,000 You'll be turning it into a machine. 358 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,000 A machine. 359 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,000 Don't do that. 360 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,000 That's it. 361 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,000 That's it. 362 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:06,000 Because I want you to save it for the next exercise. 363 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,000 Pumping loop. 364 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,000 I've got nothing left. 365 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,000 I need help. 366 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,000 Good job. 367 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:15,000 You let me dangle that for a second. 368 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,000 I want you to feel that. 369 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,000 It's good to feel that. 370 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,000 Good job. 371 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,000 Good job. 372 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,000 Excellent. 373 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,000 Maybe we could go on competition in a couple years together. 374 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,000 We never know. 375 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,000 How long would it literally take me if I worked, I'd put in all the dedication, whatever I 376 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,000 needed to take to get to a competing level. 377 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:35,000 I could have you probably in a year to go through your first amateur competition. 378 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,000 It would be a natural show. 379 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,000 What is a natural show? 380 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,000 It's a natural show. 381 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,000 It's a natural show. 382 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,000 It's a natural show. 383 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,000 I've got to have you. 384 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,000 I've got to have you. 385 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,000 I've got to have you. 386 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,000 I've got to have you. 387 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,000 It would be a natural show. 388 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,000 What is a natural show? 389 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,000 A natural show means that you are drug free. 390 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:55,000 That seems to imply that the shows that aren't called natural shows, then there are people 391 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,000 taking drugs. 392 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,000 Well, it implies that. 393 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,000 It implies that. 394 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,000 I've got a thigh workout with Guy Grundy later on this afternoon. 395 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,000 Any tips for getting through that? 396 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,000 Only do three sets. 397 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,000 Three sets of 10. 398 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,000 Don't go any higher in every one. 399 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,000 You won't be able to walk for a couple of days. 400 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,000 Thank you. 401 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,000 Thank you, sir. 402 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,000 Thanks a lot. 403 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,000 My pleasure. 404 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,000 Dismissed. 405 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:22,000 45 minutes into my training and I was already finding it heavy going. 406 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,000 But at least I wasn't the only one. 407 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,000 Are you okay? 408 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:40,000 I'm really punishing yourself there. 409 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,000 The only way it works. 410 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,000 Are you a bodybuilder? 411 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,000 Yes. 412 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:48,000 Next year I'm planning to feed it to a natural because I'm over 40 which is a master's and 413 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,000 then natural because of that of drugs. 414 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,000 Have you thought about going to drug groups? 415 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:56,000 I'm a real anti-drug person in general so that stuff. 416 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,000 You know, I see these guys dying at 30. 417 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,000 Who dies at 30? 418 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:05,000 Oh, there's been a few people that have had heart problems in the early 30s. 419 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,000 Who's the heroine? 420 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,000 Well, everybody knows it's what it is. 421 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,000 Not anybody's going to admit it. 422 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,000 How you doing, baby? 423 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,000 Ready for some leg? 424 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,000 Yeah, you ready? 425 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,000 I'm ready to rock. 426 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,000 Let's do it. 427 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,000 Your legs are so muscular. 428 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,000 Oh, yeah. 429 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,000 It looks like you might chafe between your thighs. 430 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,000 Oh, they bleed. 431 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,000 Really? 432 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,000 We'll have a look. 433 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,000 Doesn't that hurt? 434 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,000 I'll get used to it. 435 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,000 I was a little alarmed by what I'd heard earlier. 436 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,000 Is that the office? 437 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,000 And again, last one. 438 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,000 I decided to confront Guy. 439 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,000 Let it sit. 440 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,000 And the gentleman here was saying there'd been a couple of deaths related. 441 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,000 He thought related to drug use. 442 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,000 Just bullshit. 443 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,000 Who is he? 444 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,000 That guy there, he was no one. 445 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,000 Is that not true? 446 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,000 See, I don't mind talking about the negatives of the sport because there are a lot of 447 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,000 negatives of the sport. 448 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:08,000 But the thing to remember is I'm not trying to tell anyone to do this. 449 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,000 You're asking me why I do it and I accept all the risks and all the dangers. 450 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,000 People do worry about the health factor. 451 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,000 No, really. 452 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,000 That's bullshit. 453 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,000 They just want to put you down. 454 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,000 In what way? 455 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,000 Steroids, the death, the roid rage, all the other bullshit that goes along with it. 456 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,000 All day long we're asked questions by idiots that have got no idea, but they all think 457 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,000 they're experts, you know what I mean? 458 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,000 But they're not just asking the same time they're telling you you're an idiot. 459 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,000 I imagine every minute of your life someone saying you're a stupid journal, you're a stupid 460 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,000 comedy journal. 461 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:39,000 Sooner or later, no matter how calm a person you are, you're going to slap someone because 462 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,000 you think how many times must I listen to these barbaric questions? 463 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,000 Well listen, I'm sorry, I hope you don't think I was... 464 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:50,000 Oh no, no, no, just so people understand why bodybuilders get a little bit aggressive 465 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,000 towards the same question every single day. 466 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,000 It was time to move on. 467 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,000 I had the feeling I touched a nerve. 468 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:02,000 If I ask why you do it, it's not because I think you shouldn't be doing it or that you 469 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:07,000 don't have a right to be doing it, it's because I'm trying to understand, you know, what makes 470 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,000 you do it and why you enjoy it. 471 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,000 Do you know what I mean? 472 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,000 Yeah. 473 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,000 No, I fully understand. 474 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,000 Just as I said, just at times you just sometimes you don't want to be a bodybuilder, you just 475 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,000 want to be thought of as a guy, the normal person, you know what I mean? 476 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,000 Yeah. 477 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,000 You know, it's all like it's only some very content and happy. 478 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,000 Good. 479 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,000 Alright buddy. 480 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,000 See you later, guy. 481 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,000 You will. 482 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,000 Yeah, thanks again. 483 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,000 Okay. 484 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,000 I shall drive home safely. 485 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,000 I left feeling discouraged. 486 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:43,000 With the risks and commitment involved, I was no longer sure I wanted to become muscly. 487 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:48,000 But I had another lead. 488 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,000 An even more extreme branch of the muscle subculture. 489 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,000 Female bodybuilders. 490 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:58,000 I couldn't become one, but I could become one of their fans. 491 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:05,000 My initiation, a muscle worship video shoot at the home of Mr. Charles Peoples. 492 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,000 Hey Charles, how you doing? 493 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,000 You look great. 494 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,000 Well thank you, but she's infinitely better looking. 495 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,000 This is your place? 496 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,000 It's the family estate. 497 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,000 That makes it sound quite grand. 498 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,000 Well, here's what it is. 499 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,000 Well first of all, what's happening here? 500 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,000 I understand there's a film going on. 501 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,000 There's always film going on here. 502 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,000 What sort of production is it? 503 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:30,000 It's an adventure featuring muscular women doing heroic type things. 504 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,000 Could we get a little tour around? 505 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,000 We have 65 acres here. 506 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,000 We've got woods. 507 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,000 We've got fields. 508 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,000 We don't just do movies here. 509 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,000 We do all sorts of photography. 510 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,000 Anything that promoting female muscle, I host things like that here. 511 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,000 Really? 512 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,000 Oh yeah. 513 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,000 So there's stuff going on here all the time. 514 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,000 What's in it for you though? 515 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,000 You getting paid? 516 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,000 No. 517 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,000 So you're just doing it to promote the cause of women's muscularity? 518 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,000 Absolutely. 519 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,000 You have a lot of fitness equipment here. 520 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,000 Is this all yours? 521 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,000 This is my living room. 522 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:02,000 This whole room is almost like a shrine to hard women, isn't it? 523 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,000 Oh yeah. 524 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,000 Can you deal with her? 525 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,000 I think I can deal with it. 526 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,000 Can you deal with Tatiana? 527 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,000 How do you mean deal? 528 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,000 Deal with her. 529 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,000 She's over there. 530 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,000 Go deal with her. 531 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,000 How do you do? 532 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,000 Hi. 533 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,000 I'm Louie. 534 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,000 Hi Louie. 535 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,000 Tatiana, you look very tall. 536 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,000 I am. 537 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,000 Can you stand up? 538 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,000 I want to see how tall you are. 539 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,000 Wow. 540 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,000 Why don't you stand beside him? 541 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,000 Amazonian. 542 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,000 I can't. 543 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,000 I'm pretty good. 544 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,000 Amazing. 545 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,000 Well look at her. 546 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,000 Yeah, look at that. 547 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,000 Is she a regular or what? 548 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,000 Yes. 549 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,000 Amazing. 550 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,000 Absolutely amazing. 551 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,000 Look at you. 552 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,000 You're enormous. 553 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,000 Thank you. 554 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,000 You say that in a good way, don't you? 555 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,000 Yeah, totally. 556 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,000 Are you a bodybuilder? 557 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,000 I take it you are. 558 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,000 No, never touch this though. 559 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,000 Yeah. 560 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,000 Never do you. 561 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,000 Yeah, you are. 562 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,000 Well, perhaps I'll see you later. 563 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,000 Thank you. 564 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,000 Yeah, you too. 565 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,000 Have fun. 566 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,000 Yeah, we'll do. 567 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,000 Wow, she's really something. 568 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,000 Do you go out with bodybuilding women? 569 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,000 I'm friends with a number of bodybuilding women. 570 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,000 You never see a woman bodybuilder who's alone. 571 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:05,000 Women bodybuilders have no trouble whatsoever finding a male companion. 572 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,000 Never. 573 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,800 The problem is that there aren't enough muscular women to go around to all the men who find 574 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:10,800 them desirable. 575 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,000 Because you're hugging them all. 576 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,000 No. 577 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:17,000 If I, one mission, one mission in my life I've always stated is that there aren't enough 578 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:21,920 muscular women in the world and I would like to be responsible for helping contribute to 579 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,400 the increase of their number. 580 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,400 And I'm sweating in this thing and I've got to change. 581 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:27,400 All right, you better change. 582 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:28,400 Thank you so much. 583 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:29,400 See you out there. 584 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:30,400 Take care. 585 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:31,400 Okay. 586 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,680 So what is the first, the first thing? 587 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:34,680 It's a cure. 588 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:35,680 Action. 589 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:36,680 Cut. 590 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:42,680 It's good to look at muscles. 591 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,680 I know. 592 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:49,160 One of these days the rest of the world will wake up to this. 593 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:53,680 Problem is most of the world hasn't really seen it the way it should be seen. 594 00:20:53,680 --> 00:21:03,680 Would you like to be wrestling with that? 595 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,680 I wouldn't have a problem with it. 596 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,680 I'd love to be down there. 597 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:14,680 And the target market of these films would all like to be down there. 598 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:15,680 Cut. 599 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:16,680 Okay. 600 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,680 That wasn't too bad, you know. 601 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:20,680 Good. 602 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:21,680 All right. 603 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:22,680 Let's go. 604 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:27,960 Is there anything we could do that would give me a little bit of a flavor of how to appreciate 605 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,680 a muscular woman? 606 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:34,680 Yes, we could take a look at Stacey Garand's makeover. 607 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,080 The female body is about curves. 608 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:41,160 Problem with our mainstream media is they want to show women as stick figures without 609 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:42,160 any curves. 610 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,760 There's absolutely nothing attractive about the straight line. 611 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,400 It's not really bad to think that mainstream is interested in just straight lines because 612 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,680 the mainstream look is what Claudia Schiffer people like that. 613 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:57,040 Claudia Schiffer, Cindy Crawford, Pamela Anderson. 614 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,400 Let me sum this up for you. 615 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,640 Stacey, I would stack up against any of those women. 616 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:07,800 And those women really would have no chance as far as desirability in comparison to Stacey. 617 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,760 You'd really take someone like, I mean, no offense Stacey, but you would really take 618 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,240 Stacey over say Claudia Schiffer or Pamela Anderson? 619 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,800 I would take Stacey over all three of them at once. 620 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:23,920 I understand what you're saying, but in a sort of deep way it doesn't float my boat. 621 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:24,920 You've been conditioned. 622 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,160 You've been brainwashed. 623 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,160 Can you overcome that? 624 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,520 Well, I think if you open your mind and try and understand what these women are doing, 625 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,840 I think you can overcome that. 626 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,760 What are you thinking? 627 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,960 I'm thinking for the majority of aficionados, a female muscle. 628 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,760 That's probably one of the most erotic scenes you can imagine. 629 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,360 I don't want to be lewd about it, but are they 630 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,000 the guys who are watching this video? 631 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,040 Are they enjoying it just on this aesthetic level? 632 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,040 No. 633 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,040 Or are they enjoying it with a box of Kleenex? 634 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,840 Well, I'm sure some of them are doing that. 635 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:18,680 I wanted to experience what the solitary viewer could only fantasize about, and I was in luck. 636 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:23,800 Four killings later, and Charles arranged a part for me as another hapless victim. 637 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:28,040 I was about to feel the power of a muscley woman. 638 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,040 Hello. 639 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,040 How do I look? 640 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,040 Spiffy, ready for action? 641 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:38,040 You would have done actually hurt me, would you? 642 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,040 Hurt you? 643 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,040 No, I'm not going to hurt you. 644 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,040 We're going to act. 645 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,040 Yeah, it's acting. 646 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,040 Yeah. 647 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,040 Because the guy with the legs around his neck. 648 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,040 Was he hurt? 649 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,040 Didn't you hear about him? 650 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,040 Oh, shut up. 651 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,040 Have you found the right tree, Steve? 652 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,040 Yes, we did. 653 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,040 OK. 654 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,040 Oh, that's pretty tight. 655 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,040 It's good though. 656 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,040 Oh, OK. 657 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,040 Charles is so jealous of me right now. 658 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,040 Charles, are you looking at me with green eyes? 659 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,040 Don't worry, I've got my session coming up soon. 660 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,040 I've got my moment tomorrow. 661 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,040 Action. 662 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,040 Ah! 663 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,040 Roll him down the hill. 664 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,040 Wow, that was great. 665 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,040 I got to give it to you, man. 666 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,040 You gave it 110%. 667 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,040 Oh, thank you. 668 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,040 That was awesome. 669 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,040 Good. 670 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,040 You really mean that? 671 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,040 I do. 672 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,040 Thank you. 673 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,040 I'll tell you what, that bordered on... 674 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,040 That was a Kleenex moment, I guess, as you were calling it. 675 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,040 For you? 676 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,040 For anybody. 677 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,040 There was no pretense left. 678 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:17,040 I mean, I get it's an honor, but it's something odd about being a figure in one of your fantasies. 679 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:24,040 Well, I guess what we're doing is equating a killing to sex and lovemaking here. 680 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,040 I wouldn't have been the same with one of those toothpick models, would it? 681 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,040 Would it? 682 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,040 Oh, come on, they couldn't dress like me. 683 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,040 They couldn't dress like her. 684 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,040 Well, I enjoyed doing that, Charles. 685 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,040 Thank you very much for fixing me up. 686 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,040 I hope it changed your perspective a little bit. 687 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,040 Yes, yes. 688 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,040 I think it did. 689 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,040 So you won't speak ill of female muscle in a longer... 690 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,040 Oh, no, no, no. 691 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,040 No, no, no. 692 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,040 You'll tell other people about it. 693 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,040 Maybe you can wake them up about female muscle. 694 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,040 Tell them it's not as abhorrent a thing as they might have thought. 695 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,040 Oh, thank you. 696 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,040 Bye-bye, Lou. 697 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,040 Yeah, see you later, Charles. 698 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,040 And work on these arms a little bit. 699 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,040 You still got some surplus space there. 700 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,040 OK. 701 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,040 Cheers. 702 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,040 I was starting to see the appeal of the feel of a powerful woman. 703 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,040 I wanted to go further. 704 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,040 Tatiana called. 705 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,040 She invited me along to a private session with one of her fans, 706 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,040 who was going to pay to wrestle her in a hotel room. 707 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,040 Hello. 708 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,040 Hi. 709 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,040 How are you doing? 710 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,040 I'm fine. How are you? 711 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,040 Good. Nice to see you. 712 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,040 Nice to see you too. 713 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,040 Shall we go? 714 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,040 OK. 715 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,040 This guy's just paying you to arm wrestle him. 716 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,040 Yep. That's what he likes. 717 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,040 Wow. 718 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,040 And for how long? 719 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,040 About an hour. 720 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,040 And how... 721 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,040 Can I ask how much that costs? 722 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,040 Um, everyone's different. 723 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,040 Um, for me, it's usually about 300. 724 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,040 $300. 725 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,040 Who's the best? 726 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,040 It's usually about 300. 727 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,040 $300? 728 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,040 Just an arm wrestle guy for an hour. 729 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,040 You'd also do other things other than arm wrestling? 730 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,040 They're all different kinds of sessions. 731 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,040 Um, there are guys that like to see posing, 732 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,040 which means that they would just love, 733 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,040 if it was seen, a female bodybuilder, 734 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,040 untouchable on stage. 735 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,040 They'd love to see one up close. 736 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,040 Wearing what? 737 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,040 Some guys like dresses. 738 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,040 Some like bikinis. 739 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,040 Others like lingerie. 740 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,040 Some like just tights and underwear. 741 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,040 It's really about them and what their fantasy is. 742 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,040 Should we head over to the desk? 743 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,040 Yeah, I'll go pick up my key. 744 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,040 Can we talk about what we're doing, 745 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,040 or should we... 746 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,040 No. 747 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,040 No. 748 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,040 Hi. 749 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,040 I'm here to pick up my key. 750 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,040 Last name Butler. 751 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,040 You're all set. 752 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,040 Thank you. 753 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,040 Yeah. 754 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,040 These private sessions, 755 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,040 why do the bodybuilders do it? 756 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,040 For one thing, it's a source of income. 757 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,040 So it's just to do it for money, really? 758 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,040 Because you're not making a huge amount 759 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,040 doing the shows? 760 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,040 No, definitely not. 761 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,040 The usualist guy is, 762 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,040 is he going to be cool about doing this? 763 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,040 Actually, I'm a little nervous 764 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,040 because of the fact that usually 765 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,040 you get a confirmation call, 766 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,040 and I didn't get one, so... 767 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,040 I just have to wait and see. 768 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,040 There we go. 769 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,040 It's no reflection on you, 770 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,040 but there's a little bit, 771 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,040 something's a little bit seedy about it, isn't there? 772 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,040 Just as anything. 773 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,040 Just as anything, 774 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,040 there's a good side and there's a bad side. 775 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,040 Especially in today's age, 776 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,040 it's just all about what you like. 777 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,040 And the sad thing is, 778 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,040 there are a lot of men that feel like 779 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,040 they really like a muscular girl, 780 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,040 but they can't express it 781 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,040 because their friend's going to make fun of them, 782 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,040 or, you know, or something like that. 783 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,040 So, this is what they do. 784 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,040 It's 10 to 5 now. 785 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,040 If you had this run up by now, 786 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,040 you probably would not show up. 787 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,040 But, you know, 788 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,040 even the cleanest of things, 789 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,040 you might not want to be filmed on TV doing. 790 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,040 So, what we can do is, 791 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,040 I can actually show you 792 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,040 some of the things that we do. 793 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,040 Okay, so do you think you can take me? 794 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,040 Yeah. 795 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,040 Honestly? 796 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,040 Yeah. 797 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,040 Ready? 798 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,040 Yeah. 799 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,040 And then I'm just sort of looking at your muscle. 800 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,040 And most of the time, 801 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,040 look at his muscle, 802 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,040 of course, the trash talk starts. 803 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,040 Oh my gosh, is that all you got? 804 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,040 Oh! 805 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,040 Come on, stick boy. 806 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,040 You can do it. 807 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,040 Take me down. 808 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,040 I'm a girl. 809 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,040 I'm just a little witty girl. 810 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,040 Come on. 811 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,040 Come on. 812 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,040 Come on. 813 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,040 Come on. 814 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,040 You're scaring me. 815 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,040 Come on. 816 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,040 Come on. 817 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,040 You can do it. 818 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,040 Come on. 819 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,040 This is usually the time, 820 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,040 like when they lose, 821 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,040 you start stroking. 822 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,040 There you go. 823 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,040 You really were. 824 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,040 Really? 825 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,040 Yeah. 826 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,040 What's that? 827 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,040 The best. 828 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,040 Simply the best. 829 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,040 Was I only going? 830 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,040 No, you were. 831 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,040 You were. 832 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,040 Okay, brother, are you doing it now or not? 833 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,040 No. 834 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,040 Well, we've still got 40 minutes of the session left. 835 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,040 The other thing we do is lifting. 836 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,040 Where am I going? 837 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,040 Ah! 838 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,040 See, it's fun, isn't it? 839 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,040 Oh my God. 840 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,040 Do they ever lift you? 841 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,040 A lot of them are considerably smaller than me, 842 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,040 so I'm just going to lift you. 843 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,040 I just haven't got the strength. 844 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,040 You're not making me feel very good. 845 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,040 No! 846 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:53,040 Okay, this one's not as fun. 847 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,040 Is there an erotic element? 848 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,040 I mean, it does feel like, 849 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,040 you know, there's something a bit sexy about it. 850 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,040 There is. 851 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,040 I have to know which way to go and how far to take it. 852 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,040 Do some people want to take it further? 853 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,040 I think once or twice, I've got someone who wanted to take it further, 854 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,040 but I'm so nice and so clean about it, 855 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,040 most people feel really embarrassed even asking, 856 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,040 and that's how I want to keep it. 857 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:24,040 You're the only person I've always spoken to who's talked about this aspect of it. 858 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,040 I mean, is that a... 859 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,040 That's probably because I'm a baby in the field 860 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,040 and I'm probably not supposed to talk about it. 861 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,040 Really? 862 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,040 Quite because it's looked on. 863 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,040 Is it frowned on? 864 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,040 I mean, there are others who probably don't understand. 865 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,040 We've never actually done one. 866 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,040 But this is part of the scene. 867 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,040 I think so. 868 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,040 I think it's part of the scene. 869 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,040 It's not a bad part of the scene at all. 870 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,040 Like, you have these really cool guys that like to walk around taking pictures, 871 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,040 they'll give flowers and stuff like that, 872 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,040 and some people may make fun of them, 873 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,040 but I think they're really cool. 874 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,040 I think they're really sweet. 875 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,040 And I don't care who you are, 876 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,040 I don't care if you've got one eye going this way, 877 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,040 one eye going that way. 878 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,040 I think it's really neat that you even think of me in that way. 879 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,040 Good session. 880 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,040 Thank you. 881 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,040 I can't want to see the appeal. 882 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:09,040 You know, it's just so unusual to be thoroughly dominated by a woman. 883 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:15,040 Thank you so much for giving me that little peek inside the world of private sessions. 884 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,040 I should probably let you go then. 885 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,040 Yeah. 886 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,040 Thank you so much. 887 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,040 Back to work. 888 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,040 I know. 889 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,040 I have people to train. 890 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,040 Okay. 891 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,040 See you later. 892 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,040 See you later. 893 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,040 Bye. 894 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:37,040 I was beginning to think I had real potential as a fan. 895 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,040 For my final test, Charles invited me to the Jan Tanner Classic, 896 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:47,040 a bodybuilding contest where all the hardcore aficionados of female muscle were gathering. 897 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,040 I found Charles setting up his stall. 898 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,040 There he is. 899 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,040 Hi, how are you? 900 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,040 Good to see you again. 901 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,040 So what is your stall selling here? 902 00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:00,040 Well, we have a number of designs of, um, 903 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:07,040 shirts, but, uh, you know, I don't like to talk about our being a company that sells a product 904 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,040 as much as we are promoting a concept. 905 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,040 I almost like to consider myself an activist. 906 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:16,040 I think that admiring female muscle is nothing that anybody should be ashamed of. 907 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:24,040 My one, um, consideration that I always feel that a fan should have is never, ever embarrass 908 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,040 the people that you're admiring. 909 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:33,040 And, um, that's something that I try to adhere to, but there are a number of fans who in their 910 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,040 ardor or lack of judgment or lack of tact, uh, tend to do that. 911 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,040 Is there anyone we can go to meet some of the, you know, the people, the fans and whatnot? 912 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:46,040 Oh yeah, you can go to where everybody's gathering right now, which is the lobby of the hotel 913 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,040 where all the athletes are staying. 914 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:57,040 Muscle women are awesome. 915 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,040 What did you say? 916 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,040 I said muscle women are awesome. 917 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,040 What did you think? 918 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,040 I liked it a lot. 919 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,040 So I'm here. 920 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,040 How do you do? 921 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,040 Hi. 922 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,040 Louie. 923 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,040 Hi Louie. 924 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,040 What's your name? 925 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,040 Mark. 926 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,040 Mark. 927 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,040 What are you doing here? 928 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,040 I'm, uh, gonna enjoy the show. 929 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:23,040 I take pictures of women on stage and I try to get photo shoots with them. 930 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,040 So are you a fan of female bodybuilders? 931 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,040 Well, I think they look like goddesses. 932 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:34,040 It's just that combination of beauty and strength is, uh, is very thrilling. 933 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,040 So describe to me your ideal woman. 934 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,040 Being well-developed, well-over, well-shaped arms and legs. 935 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:47,040 A combination of muscular chest with a, uh, with a breast is, is very appealing. 936 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,040 Uh, there's one of my favorites. 937 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:56,040 She's very big, but her body parts flow together very beautifully, I think. 938 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,040 Uh, yeah, this was a shot from last year. 939 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,040 Pretty amazing. 940 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,040 We'll get some good shots. 941 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,040 Okay. 942 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,040 See you later. 943 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,040 Bye. 944 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:09,040 Maria, you haven't been weird in, have you? 945 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,040 What's in your ear? 946 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,040 I'm talking to one of the competitors in there. 947 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,040 So you're on constant call? 948 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,040 Yeah. 949 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,040 Which one, huh? 950 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,040 She has, um, biggest legs in the bodybuilding. 951 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,040 Does that mean to me that's too much? 952 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,040 I don't mean to offend. 953 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,040 Is she your wife? 954 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,040 Yes. 955 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,040 Really? 956 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,040 Can we meet? 957 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,040 I'll ask her. 958 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,040 Maria, uh, you haven't been weird in, have you? 959 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,040 How can you communicate by remote like that? 960 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,040 Uh, it's, it's two things. 961 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,040 She's thirsty. 962 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,040 Yeah, she's talking. 963 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,040 She's talking to me now. 964 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,040 Yeah, I'm here. 965 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,040 Uh, have you been weighed in yet? 966 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,040 Say again? 967 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,040 Say, you said you're married? 968 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,040 Yeah. 969 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,040 How long have you been married? 970 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,040 Uh, just about a year. 971 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,040 Just a year and one month. 972 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,040 And how did you meet? 973 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,040 Uh, we met at the Arnold Schwarzenegger Fitness Convention in Columbus, Ohio. 974 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,040 So you must be in heaven now, because aren't there a lot of fans of female bodybuilding 975 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,040 who have to pay lots of money to get a lot to be interested in? 976 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,040 Yeah. 977 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,040 You mean heaven? 978 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,040 Yeah, I have been for last year and one month. 979 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,040 Maria. 980 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,040 Maria, how do you do? 981 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,040 Good. 982 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,040 Nice to meet you. 983 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,040 You name? 984 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,040 Louis. 985 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,040 Oh, Louis, nice to meet you. 986 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,040 Louis from the BBC. 987 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,040 Yes. 988 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,040 Yes. 989 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,040 Okay. 990 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,040 And you're from Argentina? 991 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,040 Yeah, I'm from Argentina. 992 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,040 See, Louis, is that that big? 993 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,040 No, no, no, it's just in the photo you look. 994 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,040 I mean, it's really big. 995 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,040 Yeah, yeah, we know. 996 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,040 You know, five or something times. 997 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,040 Yeah. 998 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,040 Neil told us a bit about your love story, isn't that nice? 999 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,040 Thanks Arnold Classic, you know, thanks Arnold Schwarzenegger, you know. 1000 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,040 He got you together. 1001 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,040 He's got a nice show, but you know, I mean my husband knows that. 1002 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,040 You know, it's great. 1003 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,040 Yeah. 1004 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,040 Thank Arnold. 1005 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,040 She's a super girl, see? 1006 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,040 Right there. 1007 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,040 Yeah, super girl. 1008 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,040 Yes, that's a super girl. 1009 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,040 I was intrigued by Neil and Maria's relationship. 1010 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,040 I went up to their hotel room to find out more. 1011 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,040 How do people react to you in general? 1012 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,040 It gives me different things. 1013 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:03,040 I mean, I have a lot of gifts by mail from guys. 1014 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,040 I actually have from UK too, they send me flowers. 1015 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,040 What about just in the supermarket? 1016 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,040 Different things. 1017 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,040 By what? 1018 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,040 Like, excuse me sir. 1019 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,040 It must make you feel quite hurt. 1020 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,040 Well, a lot, a lot, but sometimes you have to ignore it. 1021 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,040 How do you feel about that Neil? 1022 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:27,040 I think a lot of it is deep-seated, rude behavior. 1023 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,040 You know, I'm being hurt as a woman. 1024 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,040 They don't even take the time to see who you are. 1025 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,040 They just go ahead and accuse you or judge you like they are God, 1026 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,040 and they tell who you are. 1027 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:43,040 It sort of seems as though mainstream society doesn't really like the muscular, 1028 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,040 the extremely muscular women's love. 1029 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,040 It is not true that society doesn't like it. 1030 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:54,040 It's not all the guys have the freedom to express themselves like, 1031 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:59,040 you know, between 100 people you're going to have 95 guys, 1032 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,040 now they love bodybuilding but they're not going to show it that they like it. 1033 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,040 They're not going to show it. 1034 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,040 Why? 1035 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,040 Because they feel they are afraid of being discriminated. 1036 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,040 Very well. 1037 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,040 Well, where do you go then? 1038 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,040 What do you think so far? 1039 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,040 I think the dedication that it takes is absolutely astounding. 1040 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,040 The only thing I worry is that I do worry that, 1041 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:25,040 okay, let's say some of the women are on steroids without making any accusations. 1042 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,040 I always thought that was really bad for you, you know? 1043 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,040 Yes. 1044 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,040 Why not? 1045 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,040 Because there's nothing bad for you. 1046 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,040 Really? 1047 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,040 You make it mad if you have use with it. 1048 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,040 Yeah. 1049 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,040 You know, it's like alcohol. 1050 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,040 If you take a little sip of something, it's good. 1051 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,040 But if you take a lot, it's really bad. 1052 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:44,040 Can you have several of this and you can just die by a liver attack or, you know? 1053 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,040 Steroids is kind of old school. 1054 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,040 I don't think many people use it that much anymore. 1055 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,040 In fact, I guess the price of it has come way down because of that. 1056 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,040 Really? 1057 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,040 Maria, Neil and I headed off for the big event. 1058 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,040 At the convention center, the crowds were beginning to assemble. 1059 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,040 I wanted to get backstage to see the bodybuilders getting ready. 1060 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,040 Contest organizer, Jan Tanner, had offered to take me. 1061 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,040 How are you doing? 1062 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,040 I'm looking for Jan Tanner. 1063 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,040 Yes, she's right up front. 1064 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,040 She's right up front. 1065 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,040 Jan Tanner. 1066 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,040 Louis! 1067 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,040 Hello! 1068 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,040 How are you doing? 1069 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,040 Good. 1070 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,040 Nice to meet you. 1071 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,040 Come on in. 1072 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,040 Okay. 1073 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,040 All right. 1074 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,040 I love your accent. 1075 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,040 I like your accent. 1076 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,040 You can feel the energy building up. 1077 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,040 Well, you can. 1078 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,040 You see very relaxed. 1079 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,040 Oh, well, you know, I've been doing it for 13 years, but I'm excited. 1080 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,040 When the show starts, the music starts. 1081 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,040 That's when I really start getting excited. 1082 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,040 There's people in the dressing rooms now. 1083 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,040 Yes. 1084 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,040 Let's see what's going on. 1085 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,040 You stay here, Louis. 1086 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,040 I'll be right back. 1087 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,040 Okay. 1088 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,040 What room is that? 1089 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,040 Yes, please. 1090 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,040 Hello, girls. 1091 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,040 This is Louis. 1092 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:56,040 He came all the way from London to meet you, girls. 1093 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,040 They're filming for the BBC, right? 1094 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,040 Yes, indeed. 1095 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,040 How are you doing? 1096 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,040 Fine. 1097 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,040 Hi, Maria. 1098 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,040 How are you? 1099 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,040 I'm pleased to help. 1100 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,040 I'm happy to be here. 1101 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,040 You can talk to us. 1102 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,040 I'll take your address. 1103 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,040 So, Louis, what do you think? 1104 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,040 Amazing. 1105 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,040 Amazing. 1106 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,040 We met this gentleman earlier. 1107 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,040 He must be enjoying himself right now. 1108 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,040 He's a big fan. 1109 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,040 May I ask what you're doing? 1110 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,040 We're all enough for them to go out on stage. 1111 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,040 And what you're using? 1112 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,040 Vegetable oil. 1113 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,040 She prefers this. 1114 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,040 And what's your name? 1115 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,040 Sharon. 1116 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,040 Sharon. 1117 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,040 You just always like muscles? 1118 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,040 Yes. 1119 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,040 I love it. 1120 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,040 I get addicted to it. 1121 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,040 I like it. 1122 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,040 I like it. 1123 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,040 I like it. 1124 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,040 I like it. 1125 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,040 I like it. 1126 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,040 I like it. 1127 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,040 I like it. 1128 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,040 I like it. 1129 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,040 I like it. 1130 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,040 I like it. 1131 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,040 I get addicted to it. 1132 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,040 Which aspect? 1133 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:47,040 You like looking the best that you've ever looked and it's hard to accept yourself in the other way. 1134 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,040 Hey! 1135 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,040 Find me! 1136 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,040 Let's go! 1137 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,040 Find me! 1138 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,040 How are you doing? 1139 00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,040 I'm doing okay. 1140 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,040 I'm a little anxious for the next few years. 1141 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,040 Are you? 1142 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,040 Yes, I am. 1143 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,040 It's been a long time dying here. 1144 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,040 How long have you been dieting? 1145 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,040 I usually diet about 20 weeks for a show. 1146 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:16,040 Do you basically look the way you do in order to compete or is this if there were no competitions 1147 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,040 would you look like this anyway? 1148 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,040 Oh, I look like this all year round. 1149 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,040 Oh, I love to look. 1150 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,040 It's different. 1151 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:27,040 I try to stay feminine in the opposite and I don't really try to look like a man. 1152 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,040 So, you know, I always wear makeup. 1153 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,040 I always wear dresses. 1154 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,040 Good luck. 1155 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,040 Nice meeting you. 1156 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,040 Thank you. 1157 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,040 Okay. 1158 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,040 I'll talk to you later. 1159 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,040 Bye-bye. 1160 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,040 I've had all the heavyweight women come backstage now, please. 1161 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,040 How are you doing? 1162 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,040 Hello, Ian. 1163 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,040 Feeling good? 1164 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,040 Yeah, feeling good. 1165 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,040 Excited. 1166 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:51,040 I was going to ask you about how you got into the bodybuilding. 1167 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,040 What were your reasons for doing it originally? 1168 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,040 What is a lot of reasons? 1169 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:59,040 I just like the way it looks in the female. 1170 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:04,040 You know, I know it's like out of the average girls, right? 1171 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,040 But I think it looks sexy too. 1172 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:11,040 I think the idea of the Amazon and, you know, the long hair, big muscles in a girl looks good. 1173 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,040 Heavyweight women, line up time, please. 1174 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:34,040 With the women about to begin their posing, I headed for the wings to watch the contest. 1175 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:38,040 So, look great, ladies. 1176 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,040 Everybody looks great. 1177 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,040 All right. 1178 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,040 Hey. 1179 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,040 Woo! 1180 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,040 I got the power! 1181 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,040 Hey! 1182 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,040 Hey! 1183 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,040 Hey! 1184 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,040 Hey! 1185 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,040 Hey! 1186 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,040 How are you doing, ladies? 1187 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,040 I'm good. 1188 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,040 I'm good. 1189 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,040 I'm good. 1190 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,040 I'm good. 1191 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,040 I'm good. 1192 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,040 I'm good. 1193 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,040 I'm good. 1194 00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,040 I'm good. 1195 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,040 I'm good. 1196 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,040 I'm good. 1197 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,040 I'm good. 1198 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,040 I'm good. 1199 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,040 I'm good. 1200 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,040 I'm good. 1201 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,040 I'm good. 1202 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,040 I'm good. 1203 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,040 I'm good. 1204 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:09,040 I'm good. 1205 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,040 I'm good. 1206 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,040 I'm good. 1207 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,040 I'm good. 1208 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,040 I'm good. 1209 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,040 I'm good. 1210 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,040 I'm good. 1211 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,040 I'm good. 1212 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,040 I'm good. 1213 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,040 My feet. 1214 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,040 My feet. 1215 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,040 They're better. 1216 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,040 It's over for that stage, so. 1217 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,040 Yeah. 1218 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,040 Yeah. 1219 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,040 Maybe the worst is over. 1220 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,040 It's, um... 1221 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,040 It's not natural, is it? 1222 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,040 To look like that. 1223 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:39,040 Maria always says she doesn't want to be the average girl sitting on a couch eating watching TV. 1224 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,040 Do you see a certain masculinity in it? 1225 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,040 Not her, maybe others. 1226 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,040 You know, I'm probably biased and I'm not... 1227 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,040 What do you mean, not bad? 1228 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:52,040 I mean, she's clearly a woman. 1229 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,040 Weren't they fantastic? 1230 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:03,040 As the heavyweight women filed off stage, I knew I'd reach the end of the road as a fan. 1231 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:07,040 The judges were picking the winners, but to me the result didn't matter. 1232 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,040 Muscle worship was not for me. 1233 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,040 I went to see Neil and Maria one last time. 1234 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,040 How you doing? 1235 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,040 Can I have a little go? 1236 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,040 Sure. 1237 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,040 You want to start in the middle and stretch the burns? 1238 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,040 It's a bit like painting a house. 1239 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,040 Do you have an idea of whether to be a fire list or not? 1240 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,040 No, I'm not. 1241 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,040 You're not? 1242 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,040 No, I'm not. 1243 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,040 Why? 1244 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,040 I was the judge, I don't know. 1245 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,040 I racked my brain trying to figure it out. 1246 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,040 We never know. 1247 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,040 We're just going to do some pictures outside now, but... 1248 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,040 You don't even get to do your routine. 1249 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,040 Nah, I'm probably going to do my routine for nothing. 1250 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,040 You just get ready for next year's, see what happens. 1251 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,040 Hopefully we make it. 1252 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,040 Who were they for? 1253 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,040 The pictures? 1254 00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,040 For me, perhaps. 1255 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,040 I guess she's in shape. 1256 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,040 Yeah. 1257 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,040 We make them by hand out of them. 1258 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,040 Bye, see you later. 1259 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:17,040 For Maria the contest was over, and it was time for me to head off too. 1260 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:24,040 With my misgivings about what I'd seen, I went to say goodbye to the champion of female muscle, Charles Peoples. 1261 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,040 There were women backstage with stubble and deep voices. 1262 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,040 That is a great detractor. 1263 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,040 That does come from the drug use. 1264 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,040 If you want to talk about the drugs, that is a problem. 1265 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:44,040 I don't know why you say it's a problem, because to my mind, bodybuilding as it exists, venues like this could not exist without the drugs. 1266 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:50,040 That angers me when you say that, because I can show you examples of women who have muscle mass without using drugs. 1267 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:55,040 The central issue is the public being able to accept a different look in females. 1268 00:44:55,040 --> 00:45:02,040 I'm not talking about the enlarged mandibles and the stubble, but that's the thing that the public still can't deal with, 1269 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:07,040 is a woman being stronger and larger or more defined than they're used to seeing a woman. 1270 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,040 It is quite shocking, sometimes, at some of it. 1271 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:22,040 I'm glad about that, because the more of you who prefer the conventionally acceptable women leaves more of the stasis for the likes of me. 1272 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:26,040 It was literally one of the most amazing things I've ever seen in my life. 1273 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,040 Thanks a lot, Charles. Take care. Bye-bye. 1274 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:38,040 Maybe I was just too conditioned, but I was happy to leave muscley women to Charles and his fellow aficionados. 1275 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:55,040 It was time to head home, but before I left, I wanted to drop in and say goodbye to my old friend Guy. 1276 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,040 Hey, Guy. Hey, Louis, what's up, baby? How you doing, man? 1277 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,040 Should we hit the road and we'll take you up on adventures? 1278 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,040 Yep, sounds good. 1279 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,040 I was at this bodybuilding competition, the Jantana Classic. 1280 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:14,040 What was amazing was how much dedication these women put in and for so little reward, really. 1281 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:18,040 Oh, the rewards are pathetic. It's a crazy sport, especially for the women there. It's even harder. 1282 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:23,040 I look like a man no matter what. I'm not changing the way that people perceive me. 1283 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,040 I may look freaky to some people, but in the end, I'm still a man. 1284 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:30,040 With a woman, it's just like they go through a different boundary. 1285 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:35,040 They're so muscular that people have trouble recognizing whether they're a man or a woman. 1286 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:39,040 Indeed, down every woman, that's got to be a certain amount of a problem. 1287 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,040 Do you know what I mean? One day, you just got to wake up and look at the mirror and go, 1288 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,040 Jesus Christ, what have I done with myself? 1289 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:50,040 So what is it that if you could define the one thing that actually you think like, this is it, I feel fantastic. 1290 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:54,040 This is bodybuilding and it's best. What is that moment? 1291 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:59,040 Just the satisfaction in looking in the mirror and saying, fuck, I've done this, I've achieved this. 1292 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,040 And I've turned this scrawny little body into something that I can be proud of. 1293 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,040 What about 20, 30 years down the line? 1294 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,040 You know, maybe I'll say, God damn, I was an idiot. 1295 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,040 But hindsight is something we've all got. You know what I mean? 1296 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:16,040 And I can predict a certain path down the future, but I'm going to show this video to my grandchildren when I'm older. 1297 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,040 And say, this is what your grandpa did. You know what I mean? 1298 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,040 And they'll say, well, you're kind of famous, you know, Pop. 1299 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,040 And that'll make me feel good. You know what I mean? 1300 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,040 Well, even if you've ruined your health. 1301 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:30,040 If it happened, I'd accept the consequences because I've lived a great life. 1302 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:34,040 But I know for a fact from what I've seen that it's not going to happen. 1303 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,040 All right, buddy, it was a pleasure meeting you. 1304 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,040 Hope you got a good insight into what's going on in your morning. 1305 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:39,040 No, excellent. Yeah. 1306 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,040 Anyway, all right, well, hope this show comes out well. 1307 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,040 Make sure you send me a video because I do like to look at myself. 1308 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,040 Yes, of course you do. Are your thighs chafing right now? 1309 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:54,040 There is 24, 7 as Americans say, non-starts. 1310 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,040 See you later. 1311 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,040 Yeah, if you take it easy. 1312 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,040 All right. Okay. Go. 1313 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,040 No fair. 1314 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,040 Did I win that? 1315 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,040 No, I thought you were getting it wrong. 1316 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,040 That was cheating. That's okay. I'll give you that one. 1317 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,040 Thank you.